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April 21, 2006

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She went far beyond her role as an advocate. She was not convicted of "misbehaving" in a court, nor for actually defending her client. She served as his official spokesperson for non-legal matters, and for that, she was convicted.

I have no sympathy for her, and her conviction is not a doomsday warning.

I haven't thoroughly familiarlized myself with the facts of the case, but from what I know of it, I'm in strong disagreement with you guys.

For one thing, attorney relationship or not, it seems to me there's a serious First Amendment issue. Do you think her statement violated the Brandenburg test? I don't.

Second, I hesitate to have such a crabbed view of advocacy, at least when it comes to criminal defense. I've done an awful lot of things for the handful of clients I've had in my short history of practice. A lot of them had nothing to do with legal work per se; they were things a friend or ordinary human being would do. But that seems to me to be part of being a lawyer, particularly when your client is in custody.

I'm not privy to Stewart's motives for what she did - perhaps she's stated them, so I may be mistaken - but I've met her, and she seemed to me to be a good, decent person who doesn't deserve to be imprisoned.

"So he was, and I presume remains, free to consult with counsel."

As I understand it, Stewart was forced to cut a deal wherein her communications with her client were monitored by the government - so I'm not sure "free to consult with counsel" is entirely accurate.

One other thing -- the conviction of the interpreter is cause for serious misgivings about the fairness and wisdom of the jurors who passed judgment in this case.

. A lot of them had nothing to do with legal work per se; they were things a friend or ordinary human being would do. But that seems to me to be part of being a lawyer, particularly when your client is in custody.

True, but you don't run drugs or violate court orders when helping our your clients. That's the difference. After all, Lynne Stewart was not tried for calling her client's boss to tell the boss her client was in jail.

Stewart wasn't running drugs either; and I don't know whether there was a court order prohibiting her conduct, but if there was, it was arguably unconstitutional if it covered the conduct in question.

What do you guys think about the conviction of the interpreter? I find it highly disturbing, personally. If you agree, don't you think that calls into question the fairness of the jury?

A lot of them had nothing to do with legal work per se; they were things a friend or ordinary human being would do

If they are things that would get an ordinary human being in trouble--such as relaying messages to terrorists--why be upset if the lawyer gets in trouble for doing them? If Stewart had represented a Crips kingpin, and had passed on that kingpin's messages to this underlings regarding drug sales and hits, I don't think we'd be arguing at all.

^^^ But a lawyer-client relationship should be worthy of a more protection, not less.

For example, we deem attorney-client communications protected.

But in any case, when you say "I don't think we'd be arguing," well I AM arguing!

Tell me again why such statements aren't protected by the First Amendment. Do they violate the Brandenburg test, and if so, how?

Norm, why did you cut my referral to Attorney Gilbert's interview on this? I think her conviction indeed represents the onset of a slippery slope and agree that her communications should enjoy more, as opposed to less, privilege.

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2005/02/14680.php

You know I always support you, brother, read the last comment here about "the larger picture."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/22/14576/1333

Chris, Norm didn't delete your comment: I did. It was off topic. As you know, we are always happy to provide a forum for commenters. But sometimes a comment is so far afield that it must go. So, please continue commenting. I'm pretty sure it was the first (of your dozens of comments) that were deleted.

Why don't we start by considering a non-political case: You are interviewing a client who is alleged to have robbed a bank of $2 million, with three unknown partners. He leans over and whispers that if you want to get paid, you have to contact his partners, tell them where the loot is buried, and get his share. IANAL, but I'm pretty sure that "helping" your client in this matter is both an ethical and a legal violation.

The facts of the Stewart case may be far less clear-cut than this, but I have not yet seen anything I could understand that explained the difference.

Thanks, Mike, no sweat. I was kinda' reachin' there :)

I won't post it here, but my question of the day 25 April post may interest you.

Cheers,

-c

There's an interesting article on Lynne Stewart and the Center for Constitutional Rights that was put out by Capital Research Center.
Here is the Web address:
http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/OT0906.pdf

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