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March 03, 2008

David Motari Abuses Animals?

Mike

In this video, someone in Iraq identified as "Motari" tosses a puppy into the air, probably killing or crippling it. The video is very disturbing, and is located here.

The David Motari (a United States Marine) depicted in this picture looks identical to the man posted in the video who is identified as "Motari"; though, with goggles on, it's hard to make a perfect ID. Here is his "Bebo" profile containing additional pictures.

It could also be the case that the video is fake. This seems highly unlikely, given the low-tech camera used to shoot the footage.

I will keep you updated on the matter.

If David Motari is the puppy killer, he is undoubtedly a sociopath who does not feel remorse or shame. After confirming him as the puppy killer, we must engage in an online campaign to ensure that everyone who does business with or associates with him is warned. The puppy had no choice; humans, through education, will.

UPDATE: A rumor has surfaced that David Motari works for Blackwater Worldwide. A Blackwater official has confirmed that no one depicted in that video is a Blackwater employee or contractor.

UPDATE: David Motari's "Bebo" profile has been switched to private: people outside of his "friends network" are not authorized to view his profile. He has ignore my repeated requests to confirm or deny that he is the "Motari" depicted in the YouTube video. I will keep you updated as this story develops.

UPDATE: Others have noted, and I agree, that we must await confirmation of the puppy killer's identity before taking further action. The matter is still under investigation, and we need to confirm identities. Once we have confirmation, we should do everything legally within our power to make the killer's life a living Hell. But we must await confirmation before taking further action.

UPDATE: The Marine Corp is investigating the matter.

UPDATE: I have an update to this post, including a link to mainstream media coverage, here.

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Comments

Regardless of who is specifically at fault for this horrendous treatment of a life, we must ask ourselves if we wish such monsters to serve our purposes as members of the armed forces. As a 15-year veteran of two military services, I can tell you that our military MUST be the most empathic, most compassionate, most respectful of life among us. We give to them the power to exercise physical force. If they do not or cannot do so with compassion and respect, WE are responsible for putting lives in danger - other lives AND our own. I can assure you, there is little effort made to ensure service members possess the greatest possible compassion and respect for those they may have to confront.

I'm reminded that it's quite common among serial killers that they abuse, torture and kill animals in their youth. This is a useful indication of what value they place on life in general. There is something missing in these people. Do you volunteer to give them a gun to represent you?

Posted by: Ricky Barnes | Mar 3, 2008 2:22:39 AM

I think it should be pointed out that soldiers by definition are trained killers. To call him a sociopath is pretty small-minded in the scheme of things. There is a reasonable chance he killed human beings on the same day.

The power of the internet could be focussed in better directions.

Posted by: stu | Mar 3, 2008 2:25:04 AM

The power of the internet could be focussed in better directions.

Posted by: stu | Mar 3, 2008 2:25:30 AM

The power of the internet could be focussed in better directions.

Posted by: stu | Mar 3, 2008 2:25:44 AM

oh dear oh dear, and here is your kama...

Posted by: justice | Mar 3, 2008 3:56:16 AM

bloody Americans the world would by a better place with out them

Posted by: tony | Mar 3, 2008 4:09:41 AM

Sad and cruel yes, but why get upset over this when parents are shot to death in front of their kids, or the kids themselves are abused and killed.

The professionalism of the USArmy is gone, instead filled with "adult-ecents" who lack the maturity and manhood to be holding the responsibility they have.

That is why America will lose much more than it gains from Iraq.

Posted by: n420755886 | Mar 3, 2008 4:17:19 AM

and anyone that says 'so... it's just a puppy?' needs to realise:

Active cruelty implies malicious intent, where a person has deliberately and intentionally caused harm to an animal, and is sometimes referred to as NAI (Non-Accidental Injury). Acts of intentional cruelty are often some of the most disturbing and should be considered signs of serious psychological problems. This type of behavior is often associated with sociopathic behavior and should be taken very seriously. (wiki)

Posted by: jon | Mar 3, 2008 4:19:05 AM

Let's show him how it feels.

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 3, 2008 4:27:46 AM

glad to see this in action, but also in a professional 'lets see if its real before we try to ruin his reputation' manner

thanks a lot - whoever that was, it was a sick wrenching video

Posted by: ham | Mar 3, 2008 4:32:57 AM

I for one wish upon Mr. Motari a hamster rapist.

Posted by: RancidAmoeba | Mar 3, 2008 4:38:25 AM

uh, seriously. do you expect any less? I mean, they are trained to kill.

plus, it's just a dog.

Posted by: booger | Mar 3, 2008 4:58:54 AM

I think it's completely and utterly dispicable that anyone would do this to any living creature and casually laugh about it as though it's a normal everyday occurrence. It's a perfect case of the lowest common denominator and peer pressure. It doesn't matter that you are in a war and it doesn't matter that you are defending your country from terrorism or whatever you think you might be doing for 'good'. behaving like this cancels all this out. How will this soldiers son/daughter/girlfriend/wife/parents or friends back home feel about him now. Imagine being a young child and watching your father do this! I think I would be scarred for life.
I definitely believe it has to be firmly estasblished who exactly this soldier is though before any action is taken. I don't necessarily agree with vigilante behaviour either, there are laws which should see that the individuals shown perpetrating this heinous act get what they deserve.

Posted by: David Dancy | Mar 3, 2008 5:11:57 AM

ok his bebo is geting some comments.

Does anyone know his chain of command? Besides the obvious CinC, Dubya.

Posted by: anon | Mar 3, 2008 5:22:48 AM

Um, killing women, children, and innocents as required by the military has nothing to do with it right? Kill em ALL!!! (as long as it's not puppies)

Posted by: Rudy | Mar 3, 2008 5:24:53 AM

The guy is a jerk, to be sure, but this "he must pay for this crime for the rest of his life!" kind of attitude is a bit much. There are actual human beings having their heads brutally sawed off; there are female children being forced to marry at pre-teen ages and having their genitals mutilated; there are human beings suffering unmentionable tragedies on a daily basis. Perhaps your passionate energies would be better utilized in their defense.

Posted by: Kevin | Mar 3, 2008 5:28:07 AM

How about confirming and then identifying? I would rather throw 10 puppies off a cliff than start a lynching this way without any proof.

Posted by: ja | Mar 3, 2008 5:30:29 AM

you are right, that was disgusting, pursue!

Posted by: Jon | Mar 3, 2008 5:36:58 AM

Thank you for taking the time to investigate this incident. Sometimes we get cought up in the wave of patriotism, that we fail to point out our willful wrongdoings.

Personally, I do not blame this soldier for his actions. I see him as a byproduct of an irresponsible policy towards the Middle East. A person who has been desensitized to that degree, should NOT be carrying weapons.

Shame on him, but more appropriately, shame on us.

Posted by: Someone who cares | Mar 3, 2008 5:52:25 AM

What a sick fuck. I hope he steps on a mine and loses his family.

Posted by: Nik | Mar 3, 2008 5:59:14 AM

What a sick fuck. I hope he steps on a mine and loses his family.

Posted by: Nik | Mar 3, 2008 5:59:50 AM

Wow, David Motari = Scum shit.

Posted by: LiberalsVSConservativesDOTcom | Mar 3, 2008 6:01:00 AM

Reporting like this is very irresponsible, as you are not an expert capable of discussing the credibility of the video, and you post a real person's name and picture to be subject to internet mobs.

While I do not personally know or have any reason to side with the person accused of a crime, I do know that what you are doing is unethical and sloppy, and you are an example of a negative person in society helping to lead mob mentality by talking about things you know jack shit about and yet making all kinds of assumptions.

Posted by: Jay | Mar 3, 2008 6:07:14 AM

Bring this bastard down! That video was so disturbing, if he can do that to a puppy what would be do to a detainee or an innocent Iraqi child...

Posted by: Adrienne Ohlidal | Mar 3, 2008 6:15:25 AM

Don't presume that just because someone is capable of performing a terrible act that he doesn't ever feel remorse or shame. In fact, most terrible acts are performed by people who are NOT sociopaths, people who can and do regret their actions on reflection. In social psychology, your assumption that Motari's action reflects his enduring character rather than any contribution of the situation is called the fundamental attribution error, and is akin to saying that the soldiers in Abu Ghraib were evil, and would have tortured people even in the best and most supportive of environments. People often do things they later regret, and this terrible act may be no different.

Posted by: Joe Infla | Mar 3, 2008 6:15:42 AM

He's a volunteer killer, sent by the US to occupy Iraq. Of Course he's "a sociopath who does not feel remorse or shame".

Posted by: Violent Acres | Mar 3, 2008 6:19:00 AM

If this what American military does in its spare time in its "war on terror" then they have lost my support! I allow my kids to watch u- tube as l thought it was free of disturbing material! needless to say that site is off bounds from now on. I would urge any parent to complain about this to their nearest American consulate as I have done.

Posted by: colinsyme | Mar 3, 2008 6:26:36 AM

So your blog is focused on civil rights, and yet you're ready to hang this kid based on, "it's hard to make a perfect ID." If only we lived in a society where people were considered innocent until proven guilty. There could even be a standard like, I don't know, beyond a reasonable doubt. That place sounds nice...

But don't let me stop you from encouraging the mob to call this guy's friends/family, post his personal info online, etc. Because you know, it might be him.

Posted by: Hooray for the mob? | Mar 3, 2008 6:27:03 AM

I hope he dies in Iraqi.

Posted by: Cory | Mar 3, 2008 6:28:29 AM

If there's enough evidence to suspect him, perhaps that information should go to the Marine Corps themselves? Anyway, thanks for reporting this.

Posted by: Ron | Mar 3, 2008 6:32:33 AM

Great stuff

Posted by: Rishie | Mar 3, 2008 6:40:30 AM

Karma will have its way. People in this day and age still don't seem to realize that anything you do can and will be used against you thanks to the internet, and your actions oh so very much have consequences. I'd not want to be in the shoes of a man whose despicable actions were memorialized on film forever, with no place to run from them, and whose entire country he is fighting for abhors him.

Posted by: anon | Mar 3, 2008 7:04:05 AM

I know the internet only likes to hear sensationalist stuff, but the fact that the video was shot with a "low tech" camera actually makes it easier to fake.

When you have low quality video you can be a lot lazier manipulating the frames in after effects or photoshop and the crummy quality masks any defects in your post processing.

The camera itself has nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Jerome | Mar 3, 2008 7:15:32 AM

Soldiers are trained to kill. Ever here of rape, pillage,and rob? It's called war. that's how you demoralize the enemy.Maybe you sissies need to grow a spine. BTW War is the absence of law. Only a silly European would think you can civilize war.

Posted by: Dad | Mar 3, 2008 7:25:37 AM

I registered a complaint with the DoD Inspector General via email. You can do the same -- flood them with these complaints, but be tactful. You can send a complaint to hotline@dodig.mil

My message to them read:

I realize there is a war going on in Iraq and that you have more important duties, but I hope you will investigate this needless cruelty and stupidity. If this is what our troops are doing over there while fighting terrorism and trying to stabilize that country then I must revoke my support. I thought our forces were made up of proud, professional soldiers, but I don't see how anyone can be proud of this.

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/43462/9fb16ab3/us_soldaat_gooit_puppy.html

/s.

Posted by: Scott G | Mar 3, 2008 7:34:40 AM

You're absolutely correct. Because he killed a puppy, he is undoubtedly a sociopath. You are so fucking stupid

Posted by: common sense | Mar 3, 2008 7:34:58 AM

You're absolutely correct. Because he killed a puppy, he is undoubtedly a sociopath. You are so fucking stupid

Posted by: common sense | Mar 3, 2008 7:35:36 AM

Thank you for working to identify the man in the video. The idea of someone doing something like that and going entirely unpunished is sickening. The only thing more sickening is the fact that he did it in the first place.

Posted by: heather (errantdreams) | Mar 3, 2008 7:38:04 AM

Funny how people will protest and try and hunt this guy down all because he threw a dog a few hundred feet. I find it hilarious that non of these people are trying to find out the names of the insurgents who murder our troops or civilians. Funny how so many people can get so angry over a dog yet every once and awhile you might here people get pissed off at insurgents taking out troops and civilians. Honestly the majority of people in America would be eating dogs if we were not so well fed. Look at Asia. Lots of people not a lot of food so they pretty much have to eat everything and anything they can cats and dogs alike. Hahah you people are such a joke that are in an uproar about this. Go away. Please

Posted by: b | Mar 3, 2008 7:38:52 AM

Call him
david motari
360-794-7191

http://www.bebo.com/WhiteBoard.jsp?PageNbr=3

Posted by: Ronno | Mar 3, 2008 7:40:22 AM

Posted by: Jacob | Mar 3, 2008 7:40:29 AM

wow ..

Posted by: wow | Mar 3, 2008 7:40:37 AM

Call him
david motari
360-794-7191

http://www.bebo.com/WhiteBoard.jsp?PageNbr=3

Posted by: Ronno | Mar 3, 2008 7:40:43 AM

Call him
david motari
360-794-7191

http://www.bebo.com/WhiteBoard.jsp?PageNbr=3

Posted by: Ronno | Mar 3, 2008 7:40:56 AM

Call him
david motari
360-794-7191

http://www.bebo.com/WhiteBoard.jsp?PageNbr=3

Posted by: Ronno | Mar 3, 2008 7:41:24 AM

Hopefully when they find out the identity of that soldier he will be reprimanded. What a piece of shit he is!!!

Posted by: Hector | Mar 3, 2008 7:49:26 AM

Hopefully when they find out the identity of that soldier he will be reprimanded. What a piece of shit he is!!!

Posted by: Hector | Mar 3, 2008 7:49:51 AM

Hopefully when they find out the identity of that soldier he will be reprimanded. What a piece of shit he is!!!

Posted by: Hector | Mar 3, 2008 7:49:56 AM

Bastard. I refuse to see the video but hope that someone pushes him of a cliff for it

Posted by: Internet Business Blogger | Mar 3, 2008 7:52:01 AM

I will hope he's strung up by a full court martial, him and his idiot friends.

Posted by: Retired Army | Mar 3, 2008 7:53:57 AM

Is there anyway we can get him prosecuted and kicked out of the military?

Posted by: Mike | Mar 3, 2008 7:55:14 AM

I very much doubt random people being judge, jury and executioner is a good idea. Think about that before harassing him.

Of course what was done on the video was pretty awful. (Of course they could be doing worse.) I think a think to ask to him is if he would feel as 'proud and manly' if he showed the movie to his mother, or girlfriend or children.

Posted by: Jasper | Mar 3, 2008 7:56:48 AM

Very sick man.
Like most americans!

Posted by: paco | Mar 3, 2008 8:01:14 AM

Wow, a true hero! Yep, takes a lotta guts to throw a puppy...

Posted by: Looprekje | Mar 3, 2008 8:02:11 AM

son of a bitch

Posted by: matelot | Mar 3, 2008 8:18:56 AM

Ok, don't get me wrong before I begin, I think this was a disgusting act and he should be punished / shunned / whatever. But the fact remains that American has killed nearly a million Iraqis at this point, and it takes just one dumb marine to kill a puppy before people sit up and take notice. That's the really disturbing issue here.

Posted by: Daniel | Mar 3, 2008 8:18:57 AM

I have a better Idea, How about instead of just trying to warn everyone, we use the power of the internets to encourage the military to investigate, and seek prosecution for animal cruelty, if the video is infact not fake.

Posted by: Troy | Mar 3, 2008 8:28:38 AM

Count me in, I saw the video and will gladly throw this dumbass bastard instead.

Posted by: Alejandro Villamarin | Mar 3, 2008 8:29:46 AM

I am not a violent guy, but I hope the taliban cut that guy open.. What a fucker.

Posted by: R. de Vries | Mar 3, 2008 8:32:28 AM

I hope Motari dies by the hand of the Taliban, that they will kick the life out of this skull and burn him to death. In a war, stick to killing your fellow humans and leave innocent animals out of it you sick excuse for a man. I cannot understand how sick people can be and actually ENJOY killing an animal, a small puppy no less. If you return, it had better be in a body bag.

Posted by: Marcus | Mar 3, 2008 8:38:14 AM

Conservative: "US soldiers killed one million Iraqis and a puppy."

Liberal: "Why did they kill a puppy?"

Conservative: "See? Nobody cares about a million Iraqis."

Posted by: Ken | Mar 3, 2008 8:38:37 AM

i hate this man. lets throw him over a cliff with his arms tied.

Posted by: Lucine | Mar 3, 2008 8:43:28 AM

send him to me,

regards USAMA

Posted by: kleptodathief | Mar 3, 2008 8:48:01 AM

If he is the puppy killer, please never say again that God loves America. This was a """""NEW BORNE""""" dog.

Posted by: Yets | Mar 3, 2008 8:56:20 AM

If this is the bastard who has thrown that puppy i hope he dies on a landmine. You fucking bastard

Posted by: Chris | Mar 3, 2008 8:57:09 AM

Thank you! I am so glad to hear that the truly evil human being (if you can call him that)who is responsible for that crime has been identified to some degree. This soldier should be discharged, tried and punished. His name should be posted in all the newspapers so we can watch out for him. This man is capable of anything. It is too bad he cannot be flung off a cliff.

Posted by: CG | Mar 3, 2008 9:01:46 AM

Posted by: CG | Mar 3, 2008 9:02:15 AM

Who cares.
How about we generate some concern for HUMAN casualties. ZOMG puppy death outrage is really, really sad.

Innocent people are dying EVERYDAY by the hands of American taxpayers.

Posted by: Ed edder | Mar 3, 2008 9:02:32 AM

I am just sicken by what this soldier did to an innocent animal. Personally, I would like to see him thrown over a cliff. To me, he is not human but the spawn of the devil!

Posted by: Lani | Mar 3, 2008 9:07:39 AM

Do consider that you might be playing judge, jury and executioner when doing this? Dont badger him too bad.

I think the guy should think about whether he will feel as proud and manly when would he show the movie to his mother, girlfriend or children.

Posted by: Jasper | Mar 3, 2008 9:12:02 AM

What an asshole. He should not be representing our country - people like him are the ones that make a horrible impression of Americans to the world.

Posted by: Casey Sanders | Mar 3, 2008 9:15:47 AM

I thought everybody in the US Armed Forces is a HERO by definition?

Posted by: AnonymousInGermany | Mar 3, 2008 9:19:55 AM

If he's guilty, he should reap what he sows: let HIM get tossed off of a cliff.

Posted by: whirlwind | Mar 3, 2008 9:26:11 AM

OKey in no way am i defending him, but keep in mind.. its only a puppy YES it is cute YES it is sad and fucked up. But bear in mind over 1 million humans have died in iraq.. so who the fuck cares about one puppy? In the scope of things.. its not that fucking important. I mean some insurgents use dogs with explosives on them to blow up soldiers... And the russians used underfed dogs with bombs trained to look for food under German tanks. Yes this guy is a loser.. im sure he knows it and thats his punishment. Get a life people.. do u know how many dogs are killed by the SPCA and PETA haha

Posted by: mike | Mar 3, 2008 9:26:22 AM

If he's guilty, he should reap what he sows: let HIM get tossed off of a cliff.

Posted by: whirlwind | Mar 3, 2008 9:26:23 AM

What a fucktard

Posted by: Dick | Mar 3, 2008 9:29:57 AM

Unfortunately, I know too many people who wouldn't hesitate to kill a domestic animal of any kind should they feel the need; from killing kittens to slaughtering chickens, this sort of behavor happens all the time. It's horrifying, but I don't think this man is a sociopath because he had fun throwing this poor creature off a cliff. I do think this kind of behavior has to stop. It's disgusting and saddening.

Posted by: Samantha | Mar 3, 2008 9:30:25 AM

Your tax dollars at work. He was probably a rethuglican

Posted by: Samir | Mar 3, 2008 9:33:11 AM

I'm ashamed to share the title of American with you.... You make us look as savage and heartless as they are.... What would your mother say you sicko...

Posted by: Anno | Mar 3, 2008 9:39:07 AM

Too bad it wasn't a bloodsucking news hype journalist being thrown off the bridge.

Posted by: john | Mar 3, 2008 9:45:26 AM

I am THERE. When he gets back it is my
personal mission to make this human scum suffer. Im sorry- but he more than deserves to suffer-

This makes me sick.

Posted by: BigEd | Mar 3, 2008 9:46:39 AM

Too bad it wasn't a bloodsucking news hype journalist being thrown off the bridge.

Posted by: john | Mar 3, 2008 9:46:43 AM

Too bad it wasn't a bloodsucking news hype journalist being thrown off the bridge.

Posted by: john | Mar 3, 2008 9:47:00 AM

It's a fucking dog. Who cares? People that are offended by this should either kill themselves or get over it.

Posted by: Mr. Progressive | Mar 3, 2008 9:49:17 AM

I hope to see David Motari staring on a beheading video soon. Troops like this do not need to come home unless in a body bag.

Posted by: Cameron Coffman | Mar 3, 2008 9:55:18 AM

David Mortari
24419 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
Phone: (360) 794-7191

Posted by: jehan | Mar 3, 2008 9:59:04 AM

"Undoubtedly"? Undoubted by whom?

Soldiers are encouraged to develop sociopathic coping mechanisms. Do you think you wouldn't if your job involved killing and possibly murdering strangers?

It's a good thing to drag this into the light, but please don't heap all your blame on the individual. We won't improve anything by doing that, and improvement is needed.

Posted by: 300baud | Mar 3, 2008 10:06:41 AM

This is irresponsible journalism. I heart Latari in the video. You haven't thought of the repurcussions if you are wrong at pointing your finger at this guy.

Posted by: Ian | Mar 3, 2008 10:16:33 AM

its a fucking war they are in and you want to "online campaign to ensure that everyone who does business with or associates with him is warned"

wakr the fuck up pussies

Posted by: silg | Mar 3, 2008 10:19:47 AM

We all have personal responsibility. But that said, I'm not yet willing to judge the puppy killer as a monster, he is a deeply scared human being.

People aren't naturally that way. It's the culture of the US military and the material conditions this man was thrown into in Iraq. Look up what Milgram said and look up the results of the Stanford Prison experiment. This act was abhorrent, but he was a Frankenstein created by his higher ups and by people in the US government - they are the real monsters.

Posted by: Sean | Mar 3, 2008 10:24:28 AM

David Motari
24419 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
(360) 794-7191

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 3, 2008 10:29:23 AM

I hope they trow you away you fool

Posted by: Cor | Mar 3, 2008 10:41:30 AM

The video looks like a hoax to me. It appears that the puppy is already dead, and that the sound effect of its yapping is added. It doesn't even twitch as the soldier winds up to throw it.

Posted by: gordo | Mar 3, 2008 10:41:55 AM

David Mortari
24419 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
Phone: (360) 794-7191

Posted by: anonymous | Mar 3, 2008 10:43:43 AM

i went to his bebo sight, and most ppl say they want him to die over there..i want him to come home so when he does..someone will come find him ziptie his hands and legs and see how he squirms when he is thrown him off a cliff..i bet you he will beg and scream..too bad animals can not.

Posted by: jessica fletcher | Mar 3, 2008 10:45:19 AM

your a piece of shit

Posted by: bob | Mar 3, 2008 10:53:15 AM

Motherfucker...!!!!
Why in earth do something like that to a harmless puppy???

I hope you suffer and die!!!

Posted by: Mayke | Mar 3, 2008 11:02:09 AM

man are you sick?i hope you will remind your horrible deeds when your back in the US.what a hero are you to throw a little innocent puppy }:-(((

Posted by: erik bleeker | Mar 3, 2008 11:13:39 AM

this guy needs to be bound and thrown off a cliff.

Posted by: tha plow | Mar 3, 2008 11:14:12 AM

I'm 100% sure that this is the guy throwing the puppy so if someone no this ashhole could you please kick his but on my behave. Many thanks. Greetz from holland.

Posted by: eric | Mar 3, 2008 11:18:08 AM

Granted, the video is extremely disturbing, and the person responsible needs help. But what you have done is outrageous. With nothing more to go on, but an image on the web and poor video, you are accusing someone of wrongdoing. If this is not the person that done the deed, then you are doing a huge disservice to this person that you are calling out as "Guilty". Shame on you and your un-researched vigilantism!

Posted by: concerend | Mar 3, 2008 11:22:48 AM

Posted by: concerend | Mar 3, 2008 11:23:19 AM

If this is the guy, then i first wished
that he would go back to the states in a bodybag, but that would be to easy for him to get away with it, so instead i wish that he steps on a landmine and loose his arms
and leggs and hope that he become 110 year old like that, and if that doesn't happen, i wish that when he's going home, someone
beat the shit out him so bad that he has to
suck liquefied food through a straw for the rest of his misreable life.

Posted by: Ronnie | Mar 3, 2008 11:41:08 AM

What a piece of trash this person is.

Posted by: Helen Kellerski | Mar 3, 2008 11:46:10 AM

Can I tie up his hands and throw him off a cliff?

Posted by: mary | Mar 3, 2008 11:53:24 AM

Can I tie up his hands and throw him off a cliff?

Posted by: mary | Mar 3, 2008 11:53:43 AM

what? online campaign, fuck that give me his address so I can tourture him and put a fucking bullet in his head.

Posted by: david | Mar 3, 2008 11:55:52 AM

and we believe blackwater why?

Posted by: Doesn't matter | Mar 3, 2008 12:02:09 PM

Do you actually have any real evidence? This is really fucking irresponsible and you should be ashamed.

Posted by: James | Mar 3, 2008 12:26:52 PM

If he is the puppy killer, I'm glad he's serving our country. We need people like this to fight terrorists.

Posted by: none | Mar 3, 2008 12:49:25 PM

I like your post, and it seems like you may have indeed found the guy, but I didn't see that "the puppy's paws are even bound with a zip tie." It really doesn't look so to me.

http://thumbsnap.com/v/hLnqgOWX.jpg
You can just make out in this still from the video that both front and back feet are separate.

Not that that it makes any of this less heinous.

Posted by: Bill W | Mar 3, 2008 12:51:28 PM

Can't we order up a body bag for this piece of crap and then fill it with him?

Posted by: ben wolfe | Mar 3, 2008 12:55:56 PM

First of all, that is not a US Marine uniform. Where is the flag? the insignia? Perhaps a Blackwater employee?

Secondly, I think the video is faked, personally, due to the fact that the "puppy" goes behind the man, out of camera angle, at a very convenient time before being "thrown," and the "cries" of the flying "puppy" do not change in volume as he moves away from the camera.

Lastly, let's drop the zip-tie thing. It is simply not true. In the shot with the other man, cables extending from his helmet appear in front of the puppy. They are there at no other time, so get it straight.

I have a real feeling that a lot of people are going to look really stupid when this is revealed to be a hoax (not a funny one, but still).

Posted by: Randy | Mar 3, 2008 1:03:21 PM

Motari est un salaud, s'en prendre à ce pauvre petit chien ! ce salopard de Motari déshonore les soldats américains !

Posted by: gilles | Mar 3, 2008 1:08:32 PM

motari salaud

Posted by: gilles | Mar 3, 2008 1:09:40 PM

is this a metaphor for?

Posted by: stevan sulecki | Mar 3, 2008 1:26:47 PM

is this a metaphor?

Posted by: stevan sulecki | Mar 3, 2008 1:28:01 PM

is this a metaphor?

Posted by: stevan sulecki | Mar 3, 2008 1:28:23 PM

You are a fucking jackass. What kind of guy would give you the time of day in the first place?

This is sickening you loser.

Posted by: Rich | Mar 3, 2008 1:36:02 PM

I can't believe all of this, over a damn stupid animal. It's not like he killed a person or anything. This is war, and during a war this is the sort of thing that happens. This guy is going to catch a lot of flak, when what he really deserves is a pat on the back and a "welcome home Marine." He served in combat in Afghanistan and Iraq, and now he won't even get a "thank you" for it, from the ungrateful people he fought to protect and defend. Mike, you should be ashamed of yourself for even posting this.

Posted by: Stan Fielding | Mar 3, 2008 1:42:23 PM

Stay on this.

Posted by: S. | Mar 3, 2008 1:42:24 PM

puppy killa nah nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah nah... run run run run away

Posted by: david byrne | Mar 3, 2008 1:46:53 PM

This guy is supposed to be a Marine. All the gear he is wearing to include the digital pattern on his cammies is that of a US Marine. Marines do not wear a flag on their camo uniforms. I reported this to the Marine Corps base where he is supposed to be from and they are looking into it. If identity is confirmed punishment will be administered. His uniform is that of armored personnel.

Posted by: SilentJay74 | Mar 3, 2008 1:49:44 PM

I have been emailing news outlets to air this video. I used the term "alleged" when using the suspects name. We still have a system of justice and need to be careful not to accuse before the accused has a chance to defend himself. Regardless, whoever did this needs to serve jail time and have a serious psychological treatment regimen as well as those who witnessed this. To put an atuomatic weapon in the hands of someone like this is asking for a horrific incident.
Doing crap like this is no different than the rapes and murders in the vietnam war by american soldiers.

Posted by: valid | Mar 3, 2008 2:01:49 PM

Mike,

I applaud your efforts in researching the facts behind this horrible video. This monster needs to be brought to justice. The fact that he's made his Bebo profile private -- as predicted -- just confirms that he's starting to feel the heat.

Posted by: Kevin Sacharnowski | Mar 3, 2008 2:13:52 PM

disgusting

Posted by: Norm Pattis | Mar 3, 2008 2:16:22 PM

Keep pushing! We really need to find who this person was that did it. Certainly someone with so little respect for life should not have the responsibility of holding a weapon that can take it.

Posted by: Si B | Mar 3, 2008 2:18:53 PM

you ppl r retarded the puppy is a fake it has no eyes and no movement at all look at the very begining of the movie multiple times and u will relize this fact

Posted by: Marc | Mar 3, 2008 2:33:30 PM

Who is next? A child or an elderly person? Proud to be an American! Sport our troops! Yeah, right...

Posted by: Lucy | Mar 3, 2008 2:34:00 PM

you ppl r retarded the puppy is a fake it has no eyes and no movement at all look at the very begining of the movie multiple times and u will relize this fact

Posted by: Marc | Mar 3, 2008 2:34:02 PM

If you Fucker throw that dog,then you have got a serieus problem.

Posted by: jan kok | Mar 3, 2008 2:42:22 PM

hey everyone!
So my post on this has been getting attacked pretty hard by some 'uneducated' fools. I did have the address up for about 30 minutes but promptly took it down. Could I get some support and help 'inform' these people
Cheeers guys,

Posted by: Jeff | Mar 3, 2008 2:49:22 PM

Killing puppies makes one a "sociopath" now? How about farmers that kill pigs, chickens and cows for a living? Does that make them sociopathic? I mean, they certainly don't have regard for the lives of those animals, right?

When did the equation become puppies > other animals, or even dogs > humans? I see a bunch of replies in threads related to this video from people that are obviously much more sociopathic than the "puppy killer" depicted here. People that are saying they'd throw HIM off a cliff.

Really people, would you throw a person off a cliff for throwing a dog off a cliff? If so, you seriously need to check into a mental institution because your priorities are fucked up!

Posted by: Johnny Xanax | Mar 3, 2008 2:55:37 PM

I would beat that man to death if I saw him do that in person

Posted by: whatadick | Mar 3, 2008 3:03:02 PM

They kill Iraqi's and we don't care, but OH LAWD A PUPPY, and the internet freaks out.

Posted by: Anomie | Mar 3, 2008 3:03:20 PM

They kill Iraqi's everyday and no one cares, but OH LAWD A PUPPY (the same kind of animals that are eating corpses and infecting the populace with all manner of disease, outnumber the populace 10 to 1, and are generally ordered to be killed anyways.) and the Internet freaks out.

Get some fucking perspective.

Posted by: Anomie | Mar 3, 2008 3:05:02 PM

Those of you who laughed. Those of you who said "its just a puppy".

YOU are every bit as much a waste of skin as this soldier.

This action, and saying those things about it, PROVES you are not only NOT BETTER
than those animals, YOU ARE WORSE!

What animal has EVER shown that degree of cruelty?
Ive seen dogs pull drowning people from streams. Cats wake their owners when a house is on fire. And we treat them like THIS?

And the question: 'Does the Human race
DESERVE to survive"???

Acts like this (and some of your responses)
make that question much harder to answer.

Perhaps God will have mercy on you.

Posted by: God1 | Mar 3, 2008 3:08:40 PM

You people are so funny, look at your rage and hatred over a little puppy.. Are you really that different from this guy?

How do you think the majority of you would respond if you were the one stupid enough to volunteer to kill for the gov't and found your self in a dangerous situation, being attacked by people that hated you?

The guy is an a$$hole.

That rage you've got there will take a lot of different forms to defend your worthless psyche. Sometimes pretending to be ruthless is the only way to survive being ruthless.

But if your hatred of him is so great because of a little dog just imagine how you'd feel after you killed people because some guy in a funny costume told you to?
Imagine the daily grind where you were being shot at by someone like him on the other side.

How do you think you would feel?

Read up on Stanley Milgram and Philip Zimbardo if you want to really understand what the average person is capable of.

Posted by: Armand | Mar 3, 2008 3:15:31 PM

Oh geeh, why get worked up so much over a friggen puppy while dozends of innocent humans die over there every week (day sometimes).

In other parts of the world people eat dogs and while I'm not advocating cruelty against animals (I'd never do such a thing) it's not something that deserves so much attention, compared to other far more pressing issues (FISA, human right, etc.)

Posted by: Sneaky | Mar 3, 2008 3:20:53 PM

What a bunch of idiots ...'He is a soldier.. a trained killer, what do you expect.
First off WHO ever this person is, he IS NOT a soldier. A true soldier would not par take in such an act. As for soldiers being trained killers and you should expect no less from them, if that is you belief you are in my professional 'soldiers' opinion ...and ASS.
I and most of my family have served our country. Trained killers as you would call us, yet none of us (nor any other soldier I know personally) would think of such an act.

Some comfort would come in finding this to truly be Mr Motari as at least then it would remove the blame from true soldiers and place it on mercenaries which is all BlackWater USA is.

Posted by: PC Medic | Mar 3, 2008 3:22:35 PM

There are some very sick people in the world, just like those who post here, who cry moral outrage over a puppy, but shed not a tear for the Iraqi people. There has NEVER been a war in the entire span of human existence where innocent women and children were not killed, and you stupid idiots waste your time with a dog. I hope you all burn in hell.

Posted by: Yonah | Mar 3, 2008 3:28:33 PM

he needs to be prosecuted

Posted by: lydia | Mar 3, 2008 3:33:59 PM

Even if this is a fake video the guy deserves all the harrassment he is going to get for it. What an idiot, I mean who would take a dead dog, throw it off a cliff, all while video taping it and then post it?

Besides, how could this be a dead dog? The dog isn't limp and who would get their jollies off throwing dead animals around? It would be the same as you finding road kill and throwing it off a bridge, would you and your buddies laugh about it later? Would you video tape it?

Posted by: T | Mar 3, 2008 3:37:16 PM

A soldiers job is to protect and sometimes that means killing.I was an army ranger and none of us would do something like that unless the puppy was a threat now give me a break how in the hell would something like this be a threat....as for all you bleeding heart liberals why not head on over there and see what it is like?I hope this guy gets the book thrwon at him...just like every other GI who is a discrace to our country!!

Posted by: darben | Mar 3, 2008 3:40:05 PM

If he was not the guilty party, you'd think he'd jump at the chance to prove his innocence. If someone accused me of something so awful, I'd do anything and everything to prove that it wasn't me. I hope his life goes to shit because of this.

Posted by: Kim | Mar 3, 2008 3:42:41 PM

Unless they had a microphone on the puppy, that video was faked.

Sorry, but the law of inverse squares from signal to source says that screaming puppy gets quieter from the microphone as it travels away from it.

In other words, it should be like this...

Yipe Yipe Yipe Yipe Yipe Yipe.

Not like this...

Yipe Yipe Yipe Yipe Yipe Yipe.

That crummy video wasn't even a good fake. It was pathetic.

Posted by: good grief | Mar 3, 2008 3:45:37 PM

Throw him off a cliff and see him whimper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by: Jimmy L | Mar 3, 2008 3:51:44 PM

I hope this "person" dies the most gruesome death possible. Actually, I hope he is crippled and maimed and lives out a short, horrible, miserable existence. The world would be a much better place without people like him.

Posted by: JayB | Mar 3, 2008 3:57:44 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfUbIu7sccI

Posted by: Jason | Mar 3, 2008 4:00:12 PM

On behalf of all United States Marines at home and abroad I would like to apologize. This shit bag does not represent the United States Marines and he is a disgrace to the uniform. He has been reported to the CO. All of the Marines here in my unit have watched this and are disgusted by his behavior.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1131/mortaridz9.jpg

Posted by: USMC Grunt | Mar 3, 2008 4:02:10 PM

How is weather or not the life of human equal to that of an animal even up for debate?!

LIFE IS SACRED NO MATTER WHAT!!!

There is only one reason to kill and that is survival!

I would have an easier time killing a human than an animal for two reasons. If an animal attacks it's because it's hungry looking for food OR because it consider's, whatever it's attacking, a threat to it's existence. Either way the animal is trying to survive.

When a human is involved it would be easier for me because the human should have known better. Example, a burglar breaking in to a house is shot. This is the expected out come and the burglar should have known better.

Remember, there should be a reverence for what you kill, especially for the innocent.

Posted by: Parker | Mar 3, 2008 4:22:27 PM

I hope every Marine, everywhere in the world, dies in a ditch, screaming and bleeding. God fuck the Marines.

Posted by: Clyde | Mar 3, 2008 4:23:23 PM

i hope he gets his head blown off over there. i also put blame on his parents because no human being who was raised like they should be would be able to something so disgusting as that. get cancer and die you fuck

Posted by: John Smith | Mar 3, 2008 4:25:52 PM

You can take one look at the guy and tell he is too much of a pussy to take on al-Qaeda, so maybe it's best that he sticks to attacking dogs and let the real Marines take on the enemy. I don't want this guy within 100 feet of our nationl security.

Posted by: Jack McCovey | Mar 3, 2008 4:40:41 PM

Heres David.

http://my.highschooljournalism.org/wa/monroe/mhs/article.cfm?eid=4390&aid=63532

and they r already investigaing:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1131/mortaridz9.jpg

Posted by: claude | Mar 3, 2008 5:02:32 PM

As I commented earlier, I can compete with anyone on here as to ho disgusted and disheartended I am by the actions of this piece of trash. However, we cannot use double standards in saying that he must die or other marines must die. There is sanctity in all life and much worse punishments than death.
To usmc grunt - thank you for reporting this video to proper authorities within the corps. And, thank you and your unit for your service to the country. It is a shame that a few disgusting shitbags like this guy has to paint such a bad picture for our armed forces.
Hope you guys come home soon.
And if the person who threw that dog off of the cliff be it Motari or whoever, I would sure love to get a shot at going toe to toe with you. I would love to see how "trained" you really are. It is easy to toss a defensless animal off of a cliff, but lets see if you have the balls to try and throw another man off of that cliff.

Posted by: valid | Mar 3, 2008 5:11:37 PM

To good grief - unless you are an AV expert, I suggest you stick to whatever it is you are best at.
It is quiet obvious the video is not a fake. While it is not of high quality (looks like a camera phone video) you also have to remember, the audio is usually not in sync with the video.
Even so, why would anyone fake something like this? Why would a corpsman in the USMC want to depict himself, his uniform and his corps in such a negative light?
Let's assume it is a fake. Should this scumbag still be allowed to serve after showcasing his corps so pitifully? It is obvious he deviated from duty, so that is at least one charge that he can be brought up on. Secondly, conduct unbecoming of an enlisted an is another charge.

Posted by: valid | Mar 3, 2008 5:17:03 PM

I don't care if he's supposedly "Trained to kill people" cause he's a soldier. Yeah, that's the point cause he's a soldier to kill other PEOPLE. From different places, not throw a defenseless puppy over a cliff. And regardless of how far he threw the puppy, it's still animal cruelty. And he never shouldn't have done it in the first place.

I really wanna know how he could look into the eyes of a little puppy, and then throw it over a cliff? There's obviously something wrong with him..

Posted by: Hayley | Mar 3, 2008 5:25:12 PM

I really wanna know how he could look into the eyes of a little puppy, and then throw it over a cliff? There's obviously something wrong with him..

Posted by: Hayley | Mar 3, 2008 5:27:02 PM

I am outraged at this horrific act. An IED under this soldiers feet would be too good for him!!!

Posted by: Diane | Mar 3, 2008 5:29:58 PM

While I don't approve of killing puppies for fun (quite disgusting conduct) anyone who dedicates themselves to make another human's life a "living hell" is just as sociopathic of not more so that the guy in the video. Hypocritical moralizing physician heal thyself. I expect the pentagon will discipline the guy, although I doubt it'll rise to the level of punishment you'd hope for.

Posted by: gus | Mar 3, 2008 5:53:37 PM

Fake or not, this video is traveling the globe. Other people in other countries are now forming opinions about Americans and what it IS we do in other countries. This video is KILLING our reputation as being helpful. You can argue whether this is humane or fake, etc...the fact remains that our men and women, our troops, are now being viewed in a very psychopathic light, as heartless killers who throw puppies (real or not) off of cliffs and LAUGH about it. At the very least the men who did this need counceling and America needs to put some Spin on this soon, say it was a stuffed animal that went flying off the cliff, we need to do what we do best and start lying to cover how truely effed up we are. I'm proud to be an American, but I draw the line at filming myself throwing puppies off of cliffs and sharing it with the world. WHAT KIND OF A DECISION WAS THAT!?!?

Posted by: Haxby | Mar 3, 2008 5:56:44 PM

This kind of crap is going to get worse as America's economy & social order continue their collapse. We need to try to NOT descend into civil war though!

Posted by: Waning Empire | Mar 3, 2008 5:56:52 PM

It's simply amazing to me how people can pick one stupid insignificant event on which to focus out of a plethora of misdeeds and genuine crimes committed in that region every friggin day. The very fact that this kid is in Iraq is a crime, against the Iraqi people and against him, too. Even if this kid is a truck driver or a cook or something, and not exactly a hardened killer, anyone who hasn't been to such a deliberately prolonged conflict such as this has no basis to pass judgment. And for those of you who have, to waste such time and energy pontificating about a crime against a stray dog which probably would've starved to death is immoral.

Now, I'm glad this guy was identified and I hope he can get some help, and I hope this doesn't ruin his career, if he wants one. That's it. This is a small crime, and while it points to a larger, broader scope of mental stress and problems throughout the military, it can and probably will be handled at the unit level. All of you people here lambasting this kid and wishing ill upon him can go to hell or put on a uniform and let yourselves be used as chattel for an illegal war. If you people were half as considered about nonsense like this as you were about the other, more important nonsense that is perpetrated by our government everyday, the world would probably be a better place.

Posted by: Publius | Mar 3, 2008 6:16:47 PM

This is getting totally out of hand.

He's still a kid and he did something very stupid. Who hasn't at that age?

Thing is the dog was already dead when he tossed it. It's a stupid stunt to pull but before you trash everyone in the military check the video, the puppy never moves, the sound was obviously dubbed in and at the end of the video I saw he is heard saying the puppy was already dead.

He's just a dumbass kid.

Posted by: Control | Mar 3, 2008 6:35:43 PM

LOL@hotmail account.

Posted by: Jenson Douchington | Mar 3, 2008 6:39:31 PM

LOL@hotmail account.

Posted by: Jenson Douchington | Mar 3, 2008 6:40:04 PM

he should be fucked up the ass with a shovel

Posted by: tony | Mar 3, 2008 6:52:08 PM

Just a note: Marines are not technically "soldiers." Soldiers are in the Army.

Posted by: trollhater | Mar 3, 2008 7:15:09 PM

Let's hope he comes back tagged, bagged and zipped up.

Posted by: Donna | Mar 3, 2008 7:22:30 PM

Now if only Amerikans could muster such outrage to the holocaust Israel is inflicting on Gaza...

Butt seriously, the overwhelming outrage over the puppy killing video is both justified and encouraging, and hopefully will be extended to sympathy for the victims of the USA's immoral war and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.

After reading thousands of comments on the puppy killing in Iraq, no one has made the following constructive suggestion: thousands of unwanted dogs, cats, kittens, and puppies are euthanized (killed) very single day here in the USA. While it won't bring back the unfortunate puppy in Iraq, consider adopting an unwanted animal from your local shelter. And please, be sure to spay or neuter your dog or cat. Hopefully, the marines responsible for this puppy killing will be neutered as well.

Honolulu Advertiser: Marine base here investigating puppy abuse video
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080303/BREAKING01/80303059/1001/BREAKING01

Posted by: Adopt | Mar 3, 2008 7:26:42 PM

I did 4 years with the 504th PIR and it's jerks like him that kept me from re-enlisting, because they always got promoted faster.

Posted by: Win | Mar 3, 2008 7:32:50 PM

MotariR@monroe.wednet.edu

Give ole David's folks an e-mail and ask why they raised such a worthless bastard of a son that doesn't respect life at all.

Posted by: Bill Jenkins | Mar 3, 2008 7:35:35 PM

even if its fake this is one of them blowing up a stray dog.
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/43436/e98bb03d/no_animals_were_harmed_in_the_filming_of_this_video.html

Posted by: JB | Mar 3, 2008 7:51:01 PM

It's NOT Mortari, It's Lcpl David MOTARI, I have all the emails oyou need to contact those who are in charge of him...He's a Marine, not blackwater!!! Call his shop (office) he may be there, he may still be in Iraq, depends on when this video was created. Let me know if anyone wants?!

Posted by: JD | Mar 3, 2008 7:53:34 PM

some more disturbing video, this time they decide to blow up a dog

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/43436/e98bb03d/no_animals_were_harmed_in_the_filming_of_this_video.html

Posted by: JB | Mar 3, 2008 7:53:59 PM

SHAME on US ARMY

They kill dogs
They kill iraqi
They Torture people in guantanamo
They support Israel who kill everyone
They support Israel who got Betleem and pushed out cristian (and other religion) from it

Shame Shame Shame... i dont feel canadian should have suche a friend!!

Posted by: mike from canada | Mar 3, 2008 8:07:28 PM

For those of you who say "it's just a puppy pay attention to the real problem..." you know what, fuck you. don't you think it's obvious that we know about the atrocities americans commit over there? this is a pure and simple example of the magnitude of the destructiveness of this war and the monsters that it's creating.

Posted by: kit | Mar 3, 2008 8:40:50 PM

The Puppy Was Not Dead when he threw it,and yes kids do stuid things,but hes not a kid anymore.

Posted by: Tina | Mar 3, 2008 9:05:42 PM

Wow - seriously unhinged comments. If in fact this disgusting act was performed by a member of the military they should be investigated, and if the accusation is sustained, charged. To do something this gross and stupid, and then to film it and post it on the net goes beyone just animal cruelty (if the animal was alive), and speaks to a complete lack of discipline and judgment, which is a very dangerous situation in a war zone. Notwithstanding all the leftard idiots ranting abour 1 million Iraqi deaths (which is of course a complete BS number, though the real casulties are still a tradgedy), if you let this sort of thing go unpunished, you will end up with much more serious crimes down the road, including things that can be used as propaganda to turn Iraqis [further] against America. Ironically, very few Iraqis or other Arabs would care about this video, they generally treat dogs like vermin, but his next stunt might be something they would care about. If this individual has the bad judgment shown in taping and posting this, what other, more important things, might he do as a result of such bad judgment.

I did note with interest the very baggy and insignia-free jumpsuit - an attempt to hide his identity or an indication that he is an imposter or a contractor? Aircrew and tankers wear jumpsuits, but they tend to still have unit insignia and tend to be better fitting - that one is so loose it could easily catch on protrusions in a vehicle, which is not hte idea.

Posted by: Mike in NY | Mar 3, 2008 9:23:51 PM

Please see that this scumbag is brought to justice, I would love to have 3 day's alone with this bastard.Out of retirement "Navy Seal"

Posted by: buster | Mar 3, 2008 9:30:21 PM

The comments blasting the Military, the War Effort, the Commander In Chief, and somehow relating them to this video are as ridiculous as those ignorant minded nutjobs who try and justify this. This in no way represents the United States Military, and I know many serving members who would love nothing more than to punt this jarhead retard through a mine field, for a 3 Point FG.

I do still hold out a slim amount of hope that this puppy was already dead, and the sounds were either faked or dubbed. How animals are treated says a heap about a persons character, and a society in large. How a puppy, or baby animal, is treated is the equivalent to how you would treat an infant child. Regardless of the human/animal treatment connection, it is just plain wrong. It is the act of victimizing an innocent life that draws such anger and furor over these acts.

I will still say Semper Fi with pride, but this bastard, if he did in fact toss a live puppy, should get his ass handed a real Code Red.

Posted by: TPL | Mar 3, 2008 9:35:46 PM

To those discredting the video as fake and to those trying to make excuses for this "kid" as a "dumb mistake"

A society is judged on how well it treats its least fortunate. It speaks volumes of america, we americans, andthis particular person - all members of one of the greatest and wealthiest nations on the earth, that we throw puppies off of cliff - fake or not, the notion of doing so or act of doing so, recording it for others to see, make it henious.

There is no defending what this person has done regardless of real or fake - dead or alive. To do so, as far as I am concerned, makes you no better than this prick.

Posted by: valid | Mar 3, 2008 10:39:35 PM

Ive read most of these comments by all you nature lovers wishing death upon the evil american warlord ...
please understand that I like dogs, it makes me sad when puppies die but its just a freekin dog...

If you'd like Ill buy a similar looking dog (you can each name him) and ill let him go somewhere desolate where it has little chance of surviving anyway.
everyone feel better now...

oh and one more thing, lets stop making death wishes upon the people who are defending you as we speak, puppy lover or not its just in poor taste

Posted by: mike | Mar 3, 2008 10:47:33 PM

as an iraqi freedom vet, there is no excuse for what he did. i hope he is identified and does face some sort of punishment for it.

Posted by: Tonatiuah | Mar 3, 2008 11:20:54 PM

Come on people, it's FAKE. The audio gives it away completely. Listen to it with a good set of headphones or decent speakers and you can actually hear the cut in and the volume increase when it should be decreasing.

Posted by: Jason | Mar 3, 2008 11:31:29 PM

For those who think it's the army, nah. He's a marine. One who obviously just made the rest look like shit. He'll suffer for it though.

And those who keep blaming it on "dumb Americans", we're not all dumb and insensitive like him. He's just an asshole. I'm sure your country has plenty of those too.

Posted by: Leagh | Mar 3, 2008 11:48:41 PM

I see a lot of missed points here.

1) The military, especially with its current recruitment campaign will attract people who are excited by cruelty and killing. They also attract thousands of decent individuals that benefit the country through their actions. The decent individuals are the major majority.
2) If you don't see any issue with his behavior because 'it's just a dog' can he play with your first born or little sister for the day, alone?
3) Cruelty towards any creature whether it be human or animal is important to highlight as you cannot have one without significant potential for cruelty for the other. If you did not even feel the slightest concern as the puppy was thrown, painfully breaking many bones and giving it internal injuries upon impact, perhaps you should seek professional help because a cold response to this is not normal.

Posted by: Broad Strokes | Mar 3, 2008 11:50:54 PM

Posted by "Parker" at 4:22 p.m.:

This is exactly why he must be prosecuted because the rage at what he has done, though justified, incites idiots like Parker to stupidly condemn all Marines when only a small percentage of them are as sick as this guy is.

Posted by: Kyle | Mar 4, 2008 12:43:11 AM

fucking american, is this sort of american military standard implemented now? fucking loser

Posted by: PUKE | Mar 4, 2008 12:44:35 AM

The issue is not that he killed a puppy. People kill animals all the time. The issue is that he killed it for fun. That is what is sick.

Posted by: bob | Mar 4, 2008 12:58:37 AM

So quick to judge the actions of others without even the concern of attempting to understand the mental anguish that troops are bombarded with in a time of war. Am I condoning this person's actions? Absolutely not. But the double standards that are posted here are nothing short of laughable. With war, genocide, poverty, and starvation prevalent where millions of people are dying daily, it seems our focus would be better directed toward these such topics. In addition, how many of you would have cared so dearly if the animal thrown was anything less "cute." I wonder if there would still be outrage if that were the case.

Posted by: whatever | Mar 4, 2008 1:03:33 AM

"It's a fucking dog. Who cares? People that are offended by this should either kill themselves or get over it."

I just had to comment to this. Did you know that most rapists, sociopaths and serial killers have histories of animal abuse. It starts at animal abuse, and progresses. The fact that it was a helpless dog makes it worse, it's like throwing a defenseless child. At least another adult human would have been able to fight/resist. And the people int he video are smiling. Death is not funny, it should never be funny. I hope the American government treats this as it should, but I'm afraid that it'll just be swept under the rug. And, honestly, I wouldn't believe them if they said it's fake, I'm sure they'd just want to cover their asses.

Posted by: Nayaki | Mar 4, 2008 1:09:54 AM

Now i know for shure, the war is only for fools!

Posted by: Eric | Mar 4, 2008 1:19:29 AM

DAVID ALLEN MOTARI FACTS:
1) He is now in Iraq, or Hawaii (in Kaneohe Bay) - see #4 for details
2) He is the soldier in the video (compare to the picture on his Bebo page's iraq photo album (which has since gone 'private', see captured image here http://federalism.typepad.com/crime_federalism/2008/03/david-motari-ab.html))
3) He married Jessica Nicole Thatcher in January 2008 (http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20080120/COMM03/696503189)
4) His wife moved to Hawaii on Feb 24, 2008 - see comments in her friend's myspace confirming this and confirming her marriage to David Motari (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=42481352)
excerpts:
-Jessica-R.I.P Mark Galloway
Jan 13 2008 11:20 AM
Hey! I know you leave soon so stop by we gotta hang out! I wont be here when you get back, I'm moving to Hawaii! oh by the way I GOT MARRIED!
Jan 13 2008 2:10 PM
kaneohe bay. I'm sure you know who he is, David Motari
Feb 21 2008 9:37 AM
"...Well I'm off to Hawaii Sunday morning!!! So hopefully your still headed down there when ya get back! You will have to hit me up so we can blaze! I can't believe I'm gunna get to live in HAWAII! WOOHOO!"
5) He signed Ipetitions, revealing a bit more information about his location and affiliation.
(http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Supersonics/signatures-4.html)
"152 David Motari I am a Marine currently serving in Iraq. I would hate to see our team move out of Seattle... Please keep the Sonics where they belong!!"

Posted by: Motari Sucks | Mar 4, 2008 1:29:11 AM

DAVID ALLEN MOTARI FACTS:
1) He is now in Iraq, or Hawaii (in Kaneohe Bay) - see #4 for details
2) He is the soldier in the video (compare to the picture on his Bebo page's iraq photo album (which has since gone 'private', see captured image here http://federalism.typepad.com/crime_federalism/2008/03/david-motari-ab.html))
3) He married Jessica Nicole Thatcher in January 2008 (http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20080120/COMM03/696503189)
4) His wife moved to Hawaii on Feb 24, 2008 - see comments in her friend's myspace confirming this and confirming her marriage to David Motari (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=42481352)
excerpts:
-Jessica-R.I.P Mark Galloway
Jan 13 2008 11:20 AM
Hey! I know you leave soon so stop by we gotta hang out! I wont be here when you get back, I'm moving to Hawaii! oh by the way I GOT MARRIED!
Jan 13 2008 2:10 PM
kaneohe bay. I'm sure you know who he is, David Motari
Feb 21 2008 9:37 AM
"...Well I'm off to Hawaii Sunday morning!!! So hopefully your still headed down there when ya get back! You will have to hit me up so we can blaze! I can't believe I'm gunna get to live in HAWAII! WOOHOO!"
5) He signed Ipetitions, revealing a bit more information about his location and affiliation.
(http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Supersonics/signatures-4.html)
"152 David Motari I am a Marine currently serving in Iraq. I would hate to see our team move out of Seattle... Please keep the Sonics where they belong!!"

Posted by: Motarisux | Mar 4, 2008 1:36:00 AM

I agree with this website whole heartedly. Motari is a sociopath and he should be put away in an institution. I sure do not ever want him walking around in my city. Stu, or Barnes or whatever your name is,you are a F***ing idiot.

Posted by: William Roman | Mar 4, 2008 2:11:27 AM

The Marine Corps won't do anything, count on that. But if this is real, the guy will rot, twice: once after being attacked when he's back stateside, and again in Hell. In theory I'm with those who'd like to rip his balls off with a pitchfork, but I know it wouldn't change a thing.

Posted by: Mark9090 | Mar 4, 2008 2:48:18 AM

I can haz rank reduction?

Posted by: i can | Mar 4, 2008 2:54:19 AM

Ricky Barnes,

That fact that he is a soldier doesn't excuse this behavior. If anything it makes it more worrying, not less, since he is a position to realize his "killing for fun" urges.

Posted by: Pete | Mar 4, 2008 3:07:22 AM

International Dog Show.

http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20080302/100426008.html

Posted by: Stephen | Mar 4, 2008 3:20:11 AM

I'm afraid this guy is very sick in the brain.
Perhaps some Uranium bullets could cure him.

Posted by: Nop @ Belgium | Mar 4, 2008 3:28:22 AM

Those Americans are numb of the war can't love again. Do not worry about that puppy but worry of the soldiers comming back to your country, after they'r done there.

BTW i think it is a hoax

Posted by: Herr-Flick | Mar 4, 2008 4:07:19 AM

Klootzak

Posted by: martin | Mar 4, 2008 4:17:26 AM

If i ever meet him (or the cowards that blew up de dog in the above video) i'd F*CK them up. I don't care that they are marines or have weapons. I'd stick a stick of dynamite in their asses and blow them up.
Sad, sick fucks, damn...
Some say Iraqies are bad, Americans are worse... Stupid fucks...

Posted by: OS | Mar 4, 2008 4:25:44 AM

what a motherfucker, i've seen the film here in the netherlands, an also here people hate this guy!!!

this guy is not a hero who fight for his country, this is just a sick fuck!!!!!!!

Posted by: niels | Mar 4, 2008 4:38:10 AM

Listen here all you morons.....

FIRST - This guy is OBVIOUSLY sick, needs to be punished SEVERLY and may him pay for this act...WITHOUT QUESTIONS....he again, is SICK.

BUT.........

Who (like a lot of you idiots here) wish DEATH on someone? How does this make you better than him? Also, STOP TURNING THIS INTO A "America is the problem" BULL SH*T.

MOST of America is Great, the people, the places the things we have done. (And this is coming from someone, me, who is from Romania)

If it was not for America, most of you would be eating wiener schnitzel in Europe and god knows where else occupied by the nazies. If it wasnt for "America" you would not have the medical advancements that SAVE YOUR SORRY ASSES. And if it was not for America, you wouldnt have that same damn blanket of freedom and luxuries you DO DAMN WELL ENJOY.

You people are discgraceful in using America so easily as a pawn. OF COURSE there are bad seeds, like this one obviously is. Judge this guy all you want, he deserves it. For he will eventually have the ultimate judgement.

But dont use America as a tool for your ajenda! Love it or leave it!

KB

Posted by: Kris B. | Mar 4, 2008 4:41:22 AM

I do realize you guys all feel sad for the puppy and stuff, I didn't like what I saw either but going as far as "making his life a living hell". That's disturbing, you're just lowering your selfs to his level, so stop and think again before acting like dogs.

Posted by: hyper | Mar 4, 2008 4:47:46 AM

If this video was real, then David, you just fulfilled every stereotype about the Marine Corp. Also, I know you're a "trained killer" and everything, but when did the Marines start condoning purposefully murdering innocent animals? Just know, even if you don't believe in God, I do, and He will have judgement on you for this. Proverbs 12:10 : "The righteous care for the needs of their animals, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel."

Posted by: Heather | Mar 4, 2008 5:00:24 AM

Sorry morons and mentaly unstable geeks who have often been mistreated by fellow students in schools find their way to feel better joining military forces of all sorts - be it Blackwater or U.S. Army. Among those are also individuals who are unable to work as civilians- their knowledge is poor, their skills are mediocre and simply- they're stupid. So they enlist and become happy soldiers totaly sure of their value. Poor Davy is one of them for sure. And we all chip in for their monthly salaries...

Posted by: K. | Mar 4, 2008 5:00:57 AM

This guys is a sick fuck. The video was on youtube and had over a hundred thousand views but they just took it down. That's a shame because more people need to see this guy for the sick twisted fuck he is. He better be discharged and brought before authorities on animal cruelty charges

Posted by: John | Mar 4, 2008 5:11:37 AM

Men will always kill men (and women...) but how can u do something like that to such a sweet little animal? What is to gain?

Everybody knows the war in iraq is all about oil but what the f*ck is this about? This guy is frustrated because his dick is too small and he has problems getting a hardon and taking it all out on the dog.... this guy deserves to be fucking shot in the face and spit upon for the respectless piece of shit that he is

Posted by: Danny | Mar 4, 2008 5:13:16 AM

The puppy was already dead before it was thrown. Watch the video again.

Posted by: Motari | Mar 4, 2008 5:15:54 AM

Wow dude do you have any idea of what you just did to the world?
I saw what you did on the news yesterday and I cried. I would like to visite you and do things to you even the devil won't do! You call yourself a christian? A hero? an american christian hero that cannot control the situation up there so just hurts innocent animals? That sounds very low, but you know what YOU ARE A LOW PIECE OF SHIT!!! YOUR A DISCRASE TO YOUR UNIFORM AND I HOPE YOU GET HURT REALLY BAD!!!

Posted by: AnimalLOVER | Mar 4, 2008 5:19:34 AM

We should trow your future baby over the hill. Then look who's laughing! Stupid low life so called soldier... shame on you and the one who raised your sorry ass

Posted by: AnimalLOVER | Mar 4, 2008 5:28:14 AM

It's called video editing. They have computers over there you know.

Posted by: Son | Mar 4, 2008 5:55:29 AM

Maybe the puppy was actually a terrorist threat

Posted by: daman | Mar 4, 2008 5:57:51 AM

it's a fucking DOG, people.

LAFFO

Posted by: Barnacle Steve | Mar 4, 2008 6:09:26 AM

I fear the true innocent victims here(other than that poor animal)will be the other soldiers in the military. We went into Iraq to basically stop another Hitler. Most soldiers know this and are less likely to act this way than the general public. The media will only use this footage to further its ongoing campaign to smear our entire effort in Iraq. NFL players running dog and cockfights are just as bad. Sadly there's no footage to stir up emotion. It shouldn't reflect on all athletes. I must wander what kind of human garbage finds thes things amusing.

Posted by: daman | Mar 4, 2008 6:10:48 AM

Its a bloody shame they have to do the same
thing with that asshole.
J.struik
the netherlands

Posted by: J.Struik | Mar 4, 2008 6:17:21 AM

hello

Posted by: DAMAN | Mar 4, 2008 6:37:39 AM

can anyone say "lynch mob"?

or "hypocritical lynch mob"?

Posted by: Boke | Mar 4, 2008 6:38:30 AM

These guys kill people for breakfast, but you care most about who threw a puppy?

Americans... The world does not understand that.

Posted by: Mathijs | Mar 4, 2008 6:51:20 AM

Chill. The USMC has a name and has identified his unit. No one need make his life "a living hell." The Marine Corps will take care of that. He has sullied the honor of the Corps. For a Marine, there is no greater crime. He will lose his stripes, do time in the brig and be dishonorably discharged, having violated the NCO Creed and a number of articles in the UCMJ.
Now some of that venom could be more profitably directed at the terrorists whom routinely murder civilians, women and children in the most brutal fashion possible. Maybe some of you could work ups some outrage if they began throwing puppies off cliffs.
I saw video of Palestinians throwing captured Israeli soldiers off of buildings. It didn't seem to generate any outrage.

Posted by: Mike | Mar 4, 2008 7:02:07 AM

Tell me where he lives please. I'd like to met him in person and express how I feel. He will not enjoy our meeting.

Posted by: peter | Mar 4, 2008 7:13:38 AM

Nearly a million people dead including untold numbers of children and people are outraged about a puppy

It's a strange world

Posted by: UK SUB | Mar 4, 2008 7:13:48 AM

what a scumbag. He is a sociopath and an ignorant and heartless dirtball.

Posted by: Dave Venturella | Mar 4, 2008 7:20:41 AM

We must not do anything legally in our power to make the rest of his life a living hell. what we must do is make sure that this person is identified and the video is authenticated, then he needs to punished for his crime.

Don't make this a vigilante type witch hunt. Find the guy, make sure the video is real, and then run him through the system.

I wish people got this fired up about all of the babies that are found dead on our streets on a weekly basis. This is going to be used and abused by the anti-war types to label our troops and somehow tie this into their reasoning for why the Iraq war is wrong.

This has nothing to do with that.