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June 16, 2009

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We'll assume in this example that the gold $50 coin has a market value of $1,000. If I understand his scheme, he was doing the following:

1. An employee would perform work for him. Let's say, earning $1,000 in a pay period.

2. Kahre would pay the employee a $50 gold coin, compensating the employee based upon the market value of the coin, but paying employment taxes based upon his claim that he paid the employee only $50 and instructing the employee to report only $50 of income on his tax return.

3. The employee would go to Kahre's partner, and trade the gold coin for $1,000 cash.

If Kahre had claimed that the coins were worth $50, and paid the employee with 20 $50 gold coins, then paid taxes on the $1,000 wage, I'm sure the employee would be very, very happy and the government would have left him alone. But it seems that Kahre was only interested in the face value of the coin when it was convenient to him as part of a scheme to dodge taxes. (If Kahre truly believed he was paying his employees based upon the face value of the coins, as opposed to their market value, what of minimum wage laws?)

Yeah. He was self serving. So what? People look for tax loop holes evey day.

Breaking the law is not a "loophole". There's no approach to his actions where he wasn't breaking tax laws, labor laws, or both.

Sure there was. I explained the approach in my post.

A gold eagle is currency. It has face value. If you pay someone in currency, then currency is what is claimed as income.

You might not agree. But that doesn't matter. In tax law, you have to show a knowingly violation of the law. There is more than enough contrary law out there to lead a person to think, "Yeah, this might be a little grey area or shady; but it's legal."

The coin has a face value of $50. End of discussion. If they're going to force them to pay taxes based on it's non-face value of $1000, why can't I pay LESS in taxes because the dollar is so DEVALUED? Inflation caused my dollars to be worth less, right?

Eric: Good point. For tax purposes: A dollar is worth a dollar, except when the dollar is a gold coin. Sounds like the IRS is the one that is being shady here.

Fabulous post!

Wow. The IRS will stop at NOTHING to squeeze more taxes from us. But if the U.S. government issues a coin that says it is worth $50, shouldn't it be worth just that? Unless it is no longer being made and has become a collector's item.

I'm not a "tax protester" either. I am revolted by taxes. And, there's not a thing I can do about it. EXCEPT save my "wealth" in gold coins.

The "inflation tax" silently steals value from your wallet. The "corporate tax" is paid for by real people who buy stuff. The "estate tax" reaches into your grave to steal from your legacy.

Gold coins represents the common man's only defense against the taxes of the "King". Where's Robin Hood when you need him?

We, the People, or is that Sheeple, have been fooled. Fooled by the word "dollar". Derived from Thaller, the German coin maker, who made one ounce silver coins. Pound used to refer to a pound of silver. The dead old white guys knew that gold and silver would keep the politicians relatively honest. John Law and paper were a well=known fraud.

It's humorous that the politicians screwed up and actually put a dollar amount on an ounce of gold. What a farce!

To avoid a capital gains issue one needs to circulate the coin at face value. A second monetary standard would be created de facto.

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